Why the 80/10/10 Raw Food Ratio Isn’t Always Enough for Dogs — and How We Can Do Better
If you’ve been in the raw feeding world for any amount of time, you’ve probably heard of the 80/10/10 model — 80% muscle meat, 10% bone, and 10% organ. It’s simple, easy to remember, and feels close to what a “whole prey” meal might look like.
But as more feeders (and even nutritionists) dig deeper, we’re learning that the 80/10/10 ratio might be more of a starting point than a perfect formula. A recent article on RawFeederLife made that point beautifully — and it’s worth exploring why it matters for our dogs’ long-term health.
The 80/10/10 Rule Was Inspired by Nature… But It’s Not the Whole Story
The idea behind 80/10/10 was to mimic a natural prey animal — a rabbit, bird, or rodent — and what a wild canine would eat if it caught one. The problem? Most of us aren’t feeding entire prey animals.
Even if you’re sourcing great ingredients, chances are you’re missing a few things your dog’s wild cousins would eat without thinking twice — fur, feathers, brains, eyes, glands, and gut contents. Each of these contributes trace nutrients and compounds that don’t show up in muscle meat, liver, or bone.
- Brains are rich in DHA, a fatty acid essential for brain and eye health.
- Eyeballs contain taurine, zinc, and vitamin A.
- Guts and tripe carry beneficial enzymes and vitamin K2.
- Fur and feathers add insoluble fiber that supports digestion.
When we skip those, we skip the nutrients too. And that’s exactly what the RawFeederLife article points out.
What’s Missing from 80/10/10 Diets?
Even if your raw meals are balanced by weight, that doesn’t mean they’re balanced by nutrition. Several studies — including reviews from the AVMA and Baldwin et al. (2010) — have shown that homemade raw diets often miss key micronutrients unless carefully formulated.
Common nutrients missing or low in 80/10/10 include:
- Vitamin E
- Iodine
- Zinc
- Manganese
- Vitamin D
- Copper
- Choline
- Folate
- Selenium
These nutrients are vital for energy metabolism, thyroid function, and immune health. Over months or years, small gaps can lead to dull coats, skin issues, fatigue, or thyroid changes — things many pet parents dismiss as “just aging.”
Whole Prey vs. 80/10/10: The Subtle but Important Difference
The term “whole prey” gets thrown around a lot — even by kibble brands. But in marketing, “whole prey” usually just means they used multiple animal parts, not that the product mirrors a real carcass.
A true whole prey diet includes everything: organs, glands, blood, brain, and sometimes fur or feathers. It’s nutritionally broader, but most feeders can’t or don’t want to handle all that — and that’s okay. What matters is understanding what’s missing so you can fill in the gaps intelligently.
Building a More Complete Raw Diet (Without Losing Your Mind)
You don’t need to throw out your feeding plan or run for a degree in animal nutrition. The goal isn’t perfection — it’s awareness.
Here are a few easy ways to upgrade from a “bare-bones” 80/10/10 approach to a more rounded, whole-prey-inspired diet:
- Rotate proteins often. Each meat brings different nutrients. For example, beef is rich in zinc, chicken in selenium, and pork in thiamine.
- Add oily fish weekly. Sardines or mackerel supply vitamin D and omega-3s. They’re a safer alternative to fish oil supplements, which can oxidize quickly.
- Use sea vegetables in moderation. A small sprinkle of kelp or seaweed powder adds iodine — but be cautious, as excess iodine can stress the thyroid.
- Add a vitamin E source. Dogs can’t get enough vitamin E from meat alone. A natural supplement or small amount of wheat germ or sunflower oil works well.
- Don’t skip organs beyond liver. Include kidney, spleen, and pancreas when you can find them — each provides unique vitamins and enzymes.
- Incorporate greens or “superfood toppers.” Blended spinach, kale, or even spirulina can mimic the phytonutrients found in prey gut contents.
- Keep track and tweak. Rotate ingredients and monitor your dog’s coat, energy, and digestion. Balance happens over time, not in one bowl.
What About Proof of Better Health?
This is where things get a little controversial. Some nutritionists claim there’s no proof that raw or whole-prey diets yield better long-term health outcomes — but that’s not entirely true.
While there are few large-scale, long-term studies (they’re expensive and hard to fund), consistent clinical and observational evidence shows that dogs fed minimally processed, whole-food diets experience improved digestion, coat quality, and energy compared to those eating ultra-processed kibble.
Research on human nutrition supports the same trend: whole foods outperform processed foods in nearly every health marker. It’s reasonable — and increasingly supported — to believe the same applies to dogs (LaFlamme et al., 2021).
So, while 80/10/10 isn’t perfect, moving toward a more diverse, whole-food model does make a meaningful difference.
Rethinking “Balance” for Real Life
The takeaway isn’t to make feeding more complicated — it’s to make it more thoughtful. The 80/10/10 model helped thousands of people start raw feeding confidently. It gave structure and made the concept approachable. But like all simple systems, it has limits.
As we learn more, the goal isn’t to throw it out — it’s to evolve it.
If your dog is thriving on 80/10/10, that’s great — keep doing what works. Just stay open to fine-tuning. Add new organs, rotate proteins, or include natural supplements. Your dog will thank you with a shinier coat, calmer digestion, and steady energy.
References and Further Reading
- RawFeederLife: Why the 80/10/10 Raw Food Diet Isn’t Balanced for Dogs
- AVMA: Raw Food Diets for Dogs and Cats — A Review
- Baldwin, K. et al. (2010). Evaluation of Nutritional Adequacy of Home-Prepared Diets for Dogs and Cats
- LaFlamme, D. P. et al. (2021). Nutritional Advances in Canine and Feline Diets: What’s New and Why It Matters
- NRC (2006). Nutrient Requirements of Dogs and Cats.
I experimented with raw when my dogs were younger, but now find home cooked to be long term healthier for them. One thing I found when researching raw food is that a lot of studies done on raw food were done to deliberately paint them in a bad light, which goes against the proper pursuit of science.
ReplyDeleteAs an example, one study I read talked about how much bacteria was in raw food---after they let their samples sit at room temperature for 8+ hours. Of course there's going to be a lot of bacteria if you let your raw dog food marinate at room temperature for hours! How is that a fair study?
I'm glad you're continuing to research dog food, and reporting on changes you think are necessary.
Excuse me while i contradict myself 😂 but i still class home cooked as raw! And while here i am discussing literal raw and blanacing diet, it truly isnt for faint of heart -its hard work and safety is one of the largest components of raw feeding and the part that makes most uncomfortable. Especially me!
DeleteWhat a fascinating article! TBH, I never heard of that rule although I wasn't actually in the "raw feeding world" I just gave my dogs a little raw in addition to their diets. They loved it, but my vet wasn't a massive fan and didn't feel a totally raw diet would be good for them. Not sure I agreed but he was a great vet so that was my compromise. I bought containers of raw in my local pet supply store, but never actually thought how that compared to eating the entire prey they would have in the wild. Very eye opening.
ReplyDeleteGenerally when i discuss raw feeding and making it as a suggestion for those interested i only suggest adding in a little. It can be a major change to their digestive system and that can be very upsetting for them. I find that just a small amount added in can be enough of an impact that people notice right away in their pups. From dental improvements to shine in their coats.
DeleteThat is a great, important reminder. Yes, the whole animal is the perfect diet. But if not feeding the whole animal, things need to be added.
ReplyDeleteIt perfectly reflects the main motto from the dog nutrition course I took--the organ has what the organ needs.
Anything that's missing needs to be added in.
This was exactly where i was headed! We forget about all the other parts of the animal that would be part of a wild animals meal. But the reality is our pets are not wild, and we arent either. So we need to consider whats missing and how the changes of the world effect all of our eating habits.
DeleteVery interesting! I remember my vet telling me to not dive into a raw or fresh diet for Henry until there was more research on it. I'll ask him about it again when I take Henry in next time. Good info.
ReplyDeleteI have not heard of this but I can see the logic behind varying your dog's diet as so many things you list are or may be missing! Our cats are the same, some love raw but we feed tem a balance of other things as 100% raw is 'not a good idea'!
ReplyDeletePeople need reminding that instructions don't just need to be followed, they need to be understood and acted upon.
Marjorie Dawson
DashKitten.com
I haven't fed my dogs raw, but this is certainly interesting!
ReplyDeleteFantastic post, Nili is on Justfood4dogs and Ollie, I change the protein as one package finishes, she loves it and I add extra raw veggies and fruit to it plus coconut oil. She gets home made fish treats with veggies and eggs all the time so am hoping she is getting a balanced healthy diet. Another thing I give her as treats is home made dehydrated gizzards and hearts which I get from the butcher and dehydrate at home.
ReplyDeleteSuch an informative article! I did not raw feed mine, however, there are some cases now where epileptic dogs may benefit from raw feeding. I'll be sharing this for sure!
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